Upon logging on you'll be greeted with possibly,
the worst engine for a mud, ever. Awkward commands
won't help new users at all. Along with horrible Ansi
coding, but the horror is just beginning. You'll also be
pestered constantly by spam. Tons of spam. Spam to vote on
items players make. Spam to read things. Spam and more Spam.
Ask a player for help, and you'll likely be treated rudely by
one of the regulars.
The features sound nice, until you discover how difficult
getting anything in this game done really becomes. The very
words of a seasoned player "We don't care about newbies.
Leave". With such trashy attitudes, it's no wonder this is
the first review for this mud. I am betting almost everyone
who joins, is treated the same way. I, myself, witnessed
three other new players quit within a day. I hung around for
awhile to get a feel for the place. I wasted my time on a mud not
Avoid this garbage mud at all costs.
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Comment posted on Sun Jan 23 18:48:41 2005 by Spencer:
Slops, 8bit is not a 'mud' nor does it have awkward commands, being
that it uses a more streamlined user friendly tweak of base PennMUSH.
8bit is built on in game capitalism, hence the ads. The Ansi is not
ansi at all, but FANSI, which you are given instructions on how to set
up your MUSH client for before you can even get a lot or on grid.
The problem with the unhelpfulness has been solved with disciplinary
action and the making of a newbie channel.
Comment posted on Sun Jan 23 11:57:25 2005 by Edgar:
Unfortunately, this man's words do have a specter of truth. There is
a good deal of spam. So much is going on here, that yes, there is a
great deal to take in and for the majority of users, most of it just
glazes over. I remember plenty a MUD with worse spam throughout. But
then, this isn't a MUD, and a lot of people prefer a bit of peace and
quiet from their talkers. This man's argument begins to get faulty
when he complains about commands. Yes, the commands are unwieldy for
MUDers, since 8bit comes from a completely different direction of MU*.
8bit is coded in a base called 'Tiny-bit', which is a derivative of
PennMUSH. Almost any standard PennMUSH commands function the same,
except perhaps for the revamped mail system. Calling 8bit's commands
unwieldy is a blow to every MUSH and MUX in existence, since each
functions almost exactly the same. Itís obvious that this man was
expecting a Diku, SMAUG, or ROM style Mud, but all he found was a
talker and a haven for MUSH-coders. That would explain his
disappointment quite easily.
And as for the harsh attitudes? Yes, this MUSH is full of players who
went through similarly rough encounters. It's full of seasoned
MUSHers that have taken the worst the community has to offer, and had
the drive to stick with it, to stay through it. It's no wonder
they're a bit jaded, but beneath those rough experiences is a
playerbase that can connect with people on another level.
8bit has a history of hazing it's members, but for better or
worse, that's changing. Horrible ANSI code? Either he was confused
about the MUSH standard ansi code (that's [ansi(,)] ), or was intimidated by the ingenious works of FANSI.
Surely if you follow the steps described upon login, you'll set your
client up to use the FANSI correctly (namely, switch to Terminal), and
be able to see large illustrations with shades, mixtures of colors,
and other various standard characters that usually get lost in a MU*
land of non standardized clients that all come together to create a
sort of ANSI and ASCII combination of art not seen on other MU*s.
All that said, it's well known that 8bit has been harsh to its newbies,
like beaten children that grow up to beat their children. Now however,
there is work in the positive direction. While before, anyone willing
to stick it out could find help when they needed it, but now, people
are starting to help newbies without a whim. Spamming a newbie is a
sitelockable offense, and those that continue to do such things are
invited to leave, never to return. Helping newbies is rewarded with
praise, and other rewards are in place. 8bit is reforming it's stance
on newbies, and already almost any question asked is immediately
answered (sometimes three or four times). If you want a MUSH to TS and
whine all day on, go away. We don't want you here. If you want a land
of free thinkers, designed to accommodate any building or coding needs
you have, then 8bit is the place for you. Asking for anything else is
like complaining about all the science fiction at a Star Wars MUD.
Comment posted on Sun Jan 23 11:06:49 2005 by Red_Yoshi:
Alright, first off, it's not a MUD, nor will it ever /be/ a MUD.It's
PennMUSH. It may have different commands than what the average
MUD-junkie is used to, but you learn to get used to it. The spam stopped
a long time ago, and the admin imposed harsher consequences for annoying
and insulting new players. And again, it's not a flipping MUD, it's a
MUSH. How many times must I say it?