Review Submitted By: Longone
Author Status: Player
Started on Dark Risings: july 2002
Submission Date: Aug 29, 2005
TMC Listing: Dark Risings
The following review is the opinion of the review's author [Longone]
and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff.
Darkrisings use to be an excellent mud worth playing. I use to be
very impressed with the attitude of the staff members and the balance
of the classes.
In recent times many events have changed from what they once were.
The attitude of the immortals has changed a lot. I watched an
invisible immortal speak on a channel about how poor the overall
roleplay of the morts was. A mort spoke out against them and even gave
an example of a situation in which the morts used a decent rp instead
of resorting to pk. The imm returned with a comment like 'Since you
are trying to prove a point, I won't trust you to fill me in on the
details.'
On April 1st, all the safe rooms were changed to regenerate stats
negatively as a prank. During the prank a few new players were caught
in these rooms and began showing signs of losing interest. Several
mortals spoke up on the ooc channel. One of them was sitebanned for
the rest of the day. An immortal I spoke to said he angered Mark (An
implementor).
A friend of mine was the mortal leader of a guild. One day he was
transed up and cussed out by the immortal leader of the guild. When he
swore back at her, he was slain and deguilded. Later on she told me
that she cussed him out to get his attention and that when he swore
back it was disrespectful.
I spoke to two or three of the current immortals. Several of them
give out other people's alternate characters and spread general trash
about players. I was told by an immortal that one male character
enjoys having 'special' relations with both male and female
characters ranging from children to adults.
The most recent display of vulgar power happened while an immortal
was having a bad day. A mortal asked him what he should name his
child. The immortal slayed him and then placed his corpse for all to
see with a sign reading 'This is what happens when you bother an
immortal having a bad day.'
A few events have been brought up over staff cheating. I cannot speak
for those in which I spoke to an immortal and they confirmed it.
A vampire was killed and looted heavily. The player who killed him
found illegal equipment on the vampire. He was transfered to an imm
room and questioned over the issue of killing the vampire. When he
showed the equipment to the administrator, he was site banned. There
was a note following his banning. It talked of the mort being
disrespectful and at the end read 'Imp abuse? Lets do it.' The
vampire was also a character used by the imp who wrote the note.
Most the vampires on darkrisings were or currently are staff members.
One of which had a duel with a member of the covenance. She admitted
to me that she recieved tells from his guild immortal while dueling
him. The immortal told her that her opponent was out of moves and the
immortal consensus was that she should finish him off. She 0later told
me that the player was so pathetic that his own guild immortal hated
him enough to aid a vampire against his set role.
The last example I have happened to a friend of mine. He had been
following his role and made a suggestion that a person in another
guild take something from a member of their guild to save the world
from a cruel fate. The next day after speaking to his immortal, his
immortal vanished and he was slain from no where. He spent twenty
minutes trying to contact an immortal to find out what he did wrong.
He sent the administration a copy of what happened. After speaking to
the immortal who slayed him he got upset and sent the logs to a
friend. He later made a comment to an old friend not to rejoin the
guild he just left. The next day he was confronted on the incident. He
was accused of trying to ruin the reputation of an immortal and told
'Lets skip to the end.' After that he was site banned.
I realise that every story has three sides. No party above was
perfect. I just wanted the events I have seen to be made known so
people may make an educated decision before trying this mud.
I will end this review on a positive note. The only thing I miss
about darkrisings were the mortal players. They are some of the best
in the gaming realm.
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Comment Submitted By: Mark
Author Status: Player and staff member
Started on Dark Risings: I am one of the IMPs
Submission Date: Sep 6, 2005
(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author
[Mark] and in no way represents the opinions of this website
or its staff).
I could write several pages about how distorted those
recollections are and exactly why. Instead, I’ll just comment
on motive. No one likes to get punished, and it is rare
to see someone who is punished agree that they deserve what
they got. That’s just Psych 101.
The staff of our MUD (as well as every other MUD) is not in
the business of running good players off. We enforce the rules,
and while we are human, and lose our tempers once in a while
when someone is being a complete jerk, most people who play
Dark Risings agree that those that get punished on DR get what
they have coming. The review that followed this one is a
good example of that. I have played many MUDs over the
last 15 years and I can say, with a perfectly straight face
and clear conscience, that there is far less power abuse on DR
than any MUD I have ever played. I consider the players to be
the most important resource for any MUD. The level of
aggravation a player has to achieve in order to overcome ANY MUD
staff’s desire for a bigger p-base, especially now days with
MMORPGS and FPS servers, is ENORMOUS. That the writer of this
review is banned from our MUD speaks volumes considering how hard
even mediocre players are to come by now days.
It's easy to badmouth a MUD you've been banned from. But does anyone
believe it's more public service than payback? I doubt it.
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Comment Submitted By: Longone
Author Status: Player
Started on Dark Risings: july 2002
Submission Date: Sep 16, 2005
(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author
[Longone] and in no way represents the opinions of this website
or its staff).
I am glad to see that you took the time out of your busy day to try
to discredit me. I remember several times when you were too busy to
even speak to me about issues, even when you didn't have my side. Call
attention to the problems of dr in the mud, and by the next
mudconnector update, a response will appear.
As for my motive. I spent a great deal of time contributing to the
mud. In the end, when my head was on the chopping block for having a
bad day, my side wasn't even heard. Instead I was sent packing. For a
while, it did upset me.
It wasnt until I saw the reviews for Darkrisings, that I decided to
post the events I saw and was a part of. I saw two reviews written by
immortals that boasted a perfect mud. The mud isnt perfect. I decided
to post my side and let anyone who wishes to read it, have another
opinion. This is not an attempt to give 'payback'.
I hope for the sake of the players, that the staff of darkrisings
changes its attitude on the players. The people who play are the
lifeline of the mud and for that deserve better treatment.
It easy to badmouth a mud you've been banned from. It's also easy
to claim someone's upset when your reputation is on the line.
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Comment Submitted By: Brian
Author Status: Player
Started on Dark Risings: 2000
Submission Date: Sep 16, 2005
(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author
[Brian] and in no way represents the opinions of this website
or its staff).
Sorry, I just read this review and had to laugh. I'm a player at DR
and all those things the reviewer mentioned that he 'heard about' or
happened to his 'friends'? Yeah....no. This guy got banned and I
guess he doesn't like the idea of other people having fun when he
can't :P
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Comment Submitted By: Mark
Author Status: Player and staff member
Started on Dark Risings: 2000
Submission Date: Sep 27, 2005
(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author
[Mark] and in no way represents the opinions of this website
or its staff).
http://darkrisings.com/genericreply.htm
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Comment Submitted By: Rob
Author Status: Player
Started on Dark Risings: ago
Submission Date: Oct 23, 2005
(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author
[Rob] and in no way represents the opinions of this website
or its staff).
I personally feel that all staff members should stay out of the
reviews about their own game. Should be paying attention in the
MUD instead of wondering what people posted and then taking the
time to discredit the poster and come back also with a log of a
conversation, that was just too much. You should not care one bit
what someone posts in here about the MUD, players will take it for
what they will. Leave it up to them to make their own judgement.
It
also sickens me to see IMMS boasting about how good their game is.
Of course you are going to say it is a great game! 99.9% of the MUDS
I have seen, staff/players cheat through the MUD, help their friends
cheat, and end up with a nice playerbase of just their own little
friends and other rolled up characters. It is how it works. And the
comment about how 'Sometimes IMMs have bad days and they blow up.'
That is VERY unprofessional and I would fire you in a second for
disrespecting any player of any game I ever own. Self control and
trusting IMMs. Players make the MUD, not the staff. But the staff
will be the first ones to drive away the players.
As for the poster,
I believe you, I beleive every word of it. It is too common on most
muds to see what you are saying. The one thing that is apparent
about the post, is that the poster is calm, that shows this review
mostly is not out to be vengeful, but just an honest review. But you
take the IMMs reply that was written in such haste and quickness,
there was no time to think about things before posting, which does
show a lot about how you handle yourself in a position, ie.. Being a
staff member in the game to quickly slay someone before listening to
them or taking the time to really understand the situation.
My last real thought, is that I don't want any MUD to fail. I enjoy
the fact that people do take the time to offer MUDs for people to
play. I have best wishes on any MUD owner and hope them the best.
My two cents.
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Comment Submitted By: Klude
Author Status: Player
Started on Dark Risings: September 2000
Submission Date: Nov 27, 2005
(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author
[Klude] and in no way represents the opinions of this website
or its staff).
Unfortunately, I'd have to agree with the poster. Every word is true.
I used to MUD here for years, but unfortunately due to abusive staff
and unresponsiveness, I no longer play here. Even during my two
breaks for long periods of time at a time, I would still recommend the
MUD to anyone that asked.
And again unfortunately, I can no longer recommend the MUD to anyone.
No longer is Darkrisings one that preserves the roleplay and
encourages new ideas and expansion of old ones, but rather insists
that only immortal alternates can -truly- follow the story and are
therefore allowed to participate in a meaningful way in the arching
storyline.
Until that changes, I can in no way return to this MUD. If you're
looking for a truly interactive MUD where you have a chance to have
fun, unless you're becoming a staff member, look elsewhere. You'll be
stifled or allowed to continue your storyline, as long as it in no way
involves anything with the overarching storyline or anyone else's
role.
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