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TMC Player Reviews: Legends of the Jedi


Review Submitted By: Corbin
Author Status: Player
Started on Legends of the Jedi: 2 years ago
Submission Date: Jan 20, 2005
TMC Listing: Legends of the Jedi

The following review is the opinion of the review's author [Corbin] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff.

I started playing at LotJ quite some time ago, and I must say,
it just hasn't been the same lately. It's hard for me to honestly
enjoy adventures in the Star Wars universe with the extreme amount
of rules that this MUD employs. As of this writing, there are 5
pages of rules, 53 in total. These range from the necessary to the
absurd. Regardless of the amount, however, the control of Immortals
over players is almost absolute, and seems reminiscent of life in
East Germany during the 1950s.

Another issue with the MUD is its 'RolePlay Council.' This is a
group of players who are supposedly united to handle issues arising
from breaking the rules. In my experience, they are simply a cabal
of self-serving Immortal pets. I don't want this review to seem a
childish insult, but every run-in I had with this RPC was ill-fated,
and they generally choose their friends when it comes to resolving
a dispute.

The MUD's codebase is very nice. It is perhaps the most advanced I
have played on, and I particularly am fond of the space system and
the myriad new skills. However, this amazing coding is overshadowed
by the police-state nature of the game. Only today, as I logged on,
I was threatened that I was not to use the AOL Instant Messenger
while playing, or I would be reported as a rulebreaker.

While this MUD has strengths, such as a diverse playerbase and a
strong codebase, I would strongly advise against playing here, unless
you like your course in the game being dictated by page upon page of
rules and regulations. My path seemed ironically rather narrow even
in the face the great potential the codebase could provide.

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Comment Submitted By: Retil
Author Status: Player
Started on Legends of the Jedi: 3 and a half years ago
Submission Date: Feb 7, 2005

(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author [Retil] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff).

I happen to agree with Sintaka. I once believed that
the immortals were nothing but power-hungry freaks.
I was totally wrong, however. I need to emphasize
that yes, there ARE a lot of rules. But every single
one has been made to prevent an activity that could
degrade the playing experience of another person.
Many, if not all of these rules are completely reasonable
for everybody. And to the comment about AOL Instant
Messenger, you can use it all you want. However,
you cannot divulge in-character secrets over an out-
of-character medium. 

Comparing the MUD to East Germany is just an childish
insult. Orion and Anna have put in THEIR time to make
this game what it is today. It's much more diverse and 
fun than it was a couple years ago. The rules have been
changed and added to, yes. But many of the originals
were quite useless, like not insulting the genitals
of an immortal. Tons of new commands, skills, and areas
have been added, and more new things are on their way.

As for the Roleplay Council..If you don't break the
rules, you usually won't get into their path. If you've
been wronged, a proper log of the event will clear your
name pretty fast. They can cross-check it with the MUD's
log and confirm your story. It's not their fault you 
can't provide proper proof. The system is exactly as
fallible as the system of court that we use today.
Decisions are made based on the evidence that is given.

Despite any shortfalls that may be perceived or imagined,
this game has always been and probably always will be
a great place to be. We recently just hit 90 players on at
once. Why would they be there if it wasn't fun?

Comment Submitted By: Moridin
Author Status: Player
Started on Legends of the Jedi: 2004
Submission Date: Feb 4, 2005

(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author [Moridin] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff).

My only comment is on your comment about being threatened not to use
AIM. You're allowed to use AIM while playing the mud, the admins just
don't want people spreading IC information over AIM or anyother OOC
means. It's a free world, you can use AIM if you want to, but if you're
talking to another player over it and you're spreading IC info, that
other player may turn you in and your character will be disciplined.


Comment Submitted By: Lex
Author Status: Player
Started on Legends of the Jedi: A long time ago
Submission Date: Feb 2, 2005

(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author [Lex] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff).

I've made chars on Legends of the Jedi twice. The first time, I had 
met the former coder on another MUD and tried it out. I got bored
pretty fast, though I must admit it was extremely well coded. The 
second time, after a spark in curiosity, I tried again.

Man, what a bad idea.

Frankly put, this is one of those 'Muds that were really really good,
but then some imms decided to take over and make it their ego-feeding
project.' My char was hardly 10 hours old when I had my first run in 
with an imm who had a jedi. Not only was I pkilled, my equipment was
totally lost. I thought they had maybe some newbie friendliness, I 
asked for them to let it slide. What did I get? 'Stop your 
complaining, deal with it.' Geeze. I'm new, give me a break. So, I 
asked for help a little more. Not only was my equipment permanantly 
lost for some reason, but I felt degraded, bullied, and ultimately,
just another newbie to abuse. Simply put, I wouldn't be surprised if 
this MUD slowly vanished into a bare-bones playerbase of a few rigged 
and immortal-supported chars. 

My advice? If you're looking for a good roleplaying SWR MUD and don't
mind taking lots of b/s, this is the MUD for you. If you're a human 
being with a sense of pride, dignity and don't want to be treated like
turd, this is NOT the MUD for you.

Comment Submitted By: Sintaka
Author Status: Player and staff member
Started on Legends of the Jedi: July 2002
Submission Date: Feb 2, 2005

(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author [Sintaka] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff).

I find it somewhat absurd that you're complaining about the rules on
LotJ. If you read over them carefully you'll notice that they don't
restrict characters in any way whatsoever. Furthermore, this huge
number of rules that we have is a result of abuse through the players.
Whenever a problem becomes somewhat widespread, we write up the rule
against it and thus prevent it from becoming an issue. Would you
rather have players that are allowed to do whatever they please? If
you ask me, having a large number of rules that prevent idiocy from
occuring when you're trying to RP is something I'd enjoy any day.

I also find it disturbing that you think that we immortals have
control over characters akin to East Germany. If you can give an
example of a situation where we've controlled what a player can do
I'd sure like to hear about it. I honestly don't see any basis for
that accusation. If we actually did control what players were doing,
what would be the point in playing? LotJ wouldn't ever have any RP.

Then there's the accusation that you've made about the RPC council
being a group of self serving pets for the immortals. This has to be
the nth time that I've heard that accusation and it always bewilders
me. The RPC was selected by the PLAYERS in a vote which we held
allowing anyone to run for the position. And now that they've been
selected you're complaining. Aside from that, I'd like to see some
basis for these accusations that are always leveled at the staff. I
think its ridiculous that someone might accuse us of being self
serving when you have situations like an immortal playing a
Stormtrooper character. Self-serving indeed! As far as the RPC council
choosing their 'friends' in votes, once again I think that is quite
an unfair accusation. For every vote done by the RPC they have to have
a basis for it and the immortals review these decisions to make sure
that everything was fair.

Sintaka

Comment Submitted By: Genevieve
Author Status: Player
Started on Legends of the Jedi: '99-'00
Submission Date: Apr 21, 2005

(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author [Genevieve] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff).

Lex, chances are you had a run in with Raven, who mset all his
characters. He got fired and the MUD has since changed ownership.
The new ownership is somewhat more put together than the old
set of staff.