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TMC Player Reviews: God Wars II


Review Submitted By: altara
Author Status: Player
Started on God Wars II: fairly recently
Submission Date: Dec 1, 2012
TMC Listing: God Wars II

The following review is the opinion of the review's author [altara] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff.

I know that reviews tend to concentrate on Mechanics, but it appears
that Godwars II has been hit by some issues I’d like to talk about.
Despite Kavir and Ragnar’s assurances that the game is a happy
lovely place now, Batty and his brother still continue to control it.

The game essentially is controlled by two brothers, Batty and
Bonecaster. These two have about 95 characters between them (however
they try to split it up and talk about other people playing from the
same place), and keep the top two slots on the pantheon board by
mapping these 95 chars up so that no one else can get there.
Essentially the only way to get up to the top two is to have that many
alts to map with as well, thus making it less Godwars and more
Altwars.

Apart from their alts, which are fairly annoying, they have taken to
spamming the main meeting point for players with chars that just send
random messages to Gossip and the village around them. Gossip is
uncensored and unmonitored, so the solution here is to just tune the
channel off and forget about it, but it’s not. We now have yet
another bot that when a specific player and his alts (Zoal) speak,
sends more random messages to chat. It gets incredibly spammy and
annoying, but again nothing is being done about it.

Finally these buffoons have taken to walking around after players
they don’t like and stealing the kill from their chars with a
character much older. Want to argue with them, awesome! You can do so
as long as you have a couple age 500 characters to fight them with,
because odds are it’s going to be a two on one. It’s not uncommon
for them to use an age 500 (which is the highest level in the game, if
you will) to lower a player down that they couldn’t beat before,
then use a character that player’s age to kill him, thus earning a
victory.

It is incredible to me that Kavir lets this go on. They have badgered
and insulted newbies, spent more time voting Godwars II down and
talking trash, as well as harassing players and at times making them
quit. I recommend Godwars II for the mechanics; see other reviews, but
until Kavir actually changes something notable to keep these two from
making the game hell for anyone who they don’t like, it is
pointless. There are numerous comments talking about changes and etc.,
but there has yet to be a change to fix these problems. It would also
be worth noting that it’s the same couple of people that try to push
every review down with comments. Some are valid, some are less so. I
hope that eventually Kavir gets tired of seeing these two trash his
game and wants to do something about it; finding other bad reviews
where they were listed as problems is not all that hard.

Kav should be commended for seeing their attempts to make the game
harder as issues and fixing them, but there becomes a point where they
are less players and more parasites on the game to be removed. When
they are not around spamming the hell out of the main channel, people
have fun and there’s a lot of good conversation on the channel
usually. You have a fair bit of flaming and arguments, but it’s
nothing that tends to go on.

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Comment Submitted By: torik
Author Status: Player
Started on God Wars II: a couple days ago
Submission Date: Dec 17, 2012

(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author [torik] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff).

I have always heard a lot of good stuff about Godwars II, so I was
excited to start playing. When I started, I was greeted by a player on
a timer who emoted ringing a bell and banging a drum, as well as
shouted random nonsense to the entire village which is kind of the
central point for the mud. I asked about it on the newbie channel and
was greeted by a Colossus member (I forget who now, but there's
apparently only two) who screamed about how it didn't hurt and etc
and tried to justify it.

I went on to play the game after finding chat and logged off a bit
later to go work on some stuff. I came back again today and was
greeted to another Colossus member spamming chat. I made a comment
about how his insults (who are directed to a player that apparently
has them totally filtered out to begin with) are really spammy and got
attacked. After a bit of back and forth I had to ignore the player so
I could play the game without being spammed over chat. I am using a
screen reader, so a ton of spam is obviously kind of hard to deal
with. Looking back at chat history, it is totally full. It holds a max
of 20 messages, and all 20 messages are from Sensai in the span of
about 3 minutes, cursing and screaming and insulting both Zoal and
myself.

I really like the game and what I've seen of it so far, but I never
want to log on to a mud and deal with a bunch of kids who have some
serious issues as well as an admin that feels that allowing them is
the way to go. I don't care so much that I had to ignore them on chat
I suppose, but newbie is for newbie questions, not Colossus's rants
and insults to new players. According to another review, Newbiehelpers
were being introduced, but at this point they seem relatively useless
since nothing happened. As the review stated, I recommend Godwars for
it's mechanics, but be ready to take a trip down memory lane back to
grade school.

Comment Submitted By: KaVir
Author Status: Staff member
Started on God Wars II:
Submission Date: Dec 20, 2012

(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author [KaVir] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff).

I don't like people ranting and insulting each other over the public channels
either, but the question is where do I draw the line? Do I start banning
players for saying something offensive? How do I decide what is offense and
what is reasonable? You said you responded over the public channels as well -
how would you have felt if I'd banned both of you? Would that have been fair,
or would you have felt that your own actions were justified, and that I'd
targeted you unfairly? Don't you think others would feel the same?

That's why I added the 'ignore' command. It lets each player decide for
themselves where the line should be drawn. You find someone obnoxious? Ignore
them. Add a '*' after their name and you'll ignore all of their alts as well.

If you want a game where the staff ban and delete players for upsetting other
people, then I'm afraid God Wars II is not the mud for you. I've given you
the power to deal with them yourself, and I expect you to do so.

Comment Submitted By: Torik
Author Status: Player
Started on God Wars II: No longer a player.
Submission Date: Jan 3, 2013

(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author [Torik] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff).

KaVir: Thanks for your comment. I was curious if anyone watched this.
I understand you added the ignore feature, and I was more than happy
to make use of it. The issues I see are this: People have made
repeated complaints about the spam of alts. No, I don't expect you to
ban every char for doing something wrong, but there's a point when
your refusal to do anything gets a little out of hand and hurts the
game more than helps it. When I log on as a new player to see a
spambot essentially, as the bot serves no purpose screaming crap and I
see people insulting newbies on a channel made for helping them, that
is also a problem. You say ignore? I say make your game a place where
newbies can ask questions without getting flamed. I would also like to
recommend you actually fix ignore. Whether or not I ignore TownCrier,
I still get their spam in glyph which is where I am dumped as a
newbie.