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Quothe Kyndig:
sorry for downtime. the website experienced some DDOS. I
don't have the time to focus on 'fixing' the firewall, or
even fixing the software on the server. I expect to be
shutting down the text game community by weeks end. Sorry
folks, but not interested in goin through this mess again.

Have fun gaming!


MudRage is closing its doors. MudMagic will exist for mud
hosting, but MudRage has called it quits and will cease to
exist within a few hours according to his second post which
was in response to a post by me asking for clarification.
If you happen to read this before MudRage is closed the
link to the thread is: http://www.mudrage.com/boards/chat/12/3092/3097

Nothing against Kyndig, but I stopped visiting MudMagic a long time ago. I didn't even know it had changed to MudRage until today. With Kyndig not able to work on the site, it just got too out-dated and non-functional, and basically ceased to be relevant. I also got the feeling that of TMS, TMC, and MM, the MM forums were not for me.

Whether as individuals we used it, the site was the second
largest mudding site, it was a great source of
advertisement (4D got most of its newbies from there
because we were always ranked #1 in Top Rated) and the code
repository was the largest of its kind (I managed to
download 249 MB of it due to frantically attempting to get
the whole thing before he shut it down but failing as it is
now closed). Whether some of us specifically didn't use it
hardly changes that the community as a whole just suffered
a massive casualty.

"I managed to download 249 MB of it due to frantically attempting to get
the whole thing before he shut it down but failing as it is
now closed"

According to that now-defunct thread, he was going
to leave it up til the weekend, then something I,
Cratylus, said here on TMC made him shut it down this
very night.

So you can thank me for not being able to get it all.

Aside from how weird that is, I think it's just
pointless and selfish to zap the whole site just
because he doesn't feel like running it. For a lot
of people it had value, and if he didn't want to be
bothered, or it wasn't profitable, he could have
just turned it over to someone else.

Instead he's made a big dramatic point of giving
everyone the finger, taking his toys, and going home.

Interesting to me is that he took away my
account in the last 15 minutes, so I could not reply
to his post blaming me for the site being taken away
today. Dig that. Someone else was able to post, so
I know it wasn't *all* accounts that got hosed. He
actually took the time to ban *me* in the last 15
minutes before the closing the site.

It probably seems like an insignificant detail, but
for me it speaks volumes.

-Crat
http://lpmuds.net

Aside from how weird that
is, I think it's just pointless and selfish to zap the
whole site just because he doesn't feel like running it.
For a lot of people it had value, and if he didn't want to
be bothered, or it wasn't profitable, he could have just
turned it over to someone else.

I agree, which well, pisses me off. I emailed him asking if
he had any intent to even think of passing it off and was
pretty much told to *CENSORED* off.

I agree, which well, pisses me off. I emailed him asking if
he had any intent to even think of passing it off and was
pretty much told to *CENSORED* off.

Maybe you should have used your Fizban account, because he like him and hates Drizzt. LOL, sorry i still am tickled by all that.

Ok well he could have gutted the whole thing and left the repository up till someone had the patience to mirror it all, there was a lot of history in all the code that was there.

So anyways whats next, did i mention that i managed to download all the DBZ themed engines before it shut, cause i have started work on a DBZ engine with someone. I guess with all the current happenings i might as well throw that one into the fire and give you all something to giggle at.

Interesting to me is that he took away my
account in the last 15 minutes, so I could not reply
to his post blaming me for the site being taken away
today. Dig that. Someone else was able to post, so
I know it wasn't *all* accounts that got hosed. He
actually took the time to ban *me* in the last 15
minutes before the closing the site.

ROFLMAO!!

I LOVE YOU Cratylus! Liar liar pants on fire. wow nice job. Good luck with YOUR community. ;)

For the masses, my 3 yr old code that had bans:

/* the cici guy is a spammer -nazgul==locke, Shadowdemonz - cursing at _everyone_ */
/* jwalker (Xorith): http://www.mudrage.com/boards/chat/18/2655/2674, doesn't like mudrage */

$ba_list = array( "locke@mugs.net", /* locke */
"madmerv@gmail.com", /* locke */
"samson@afkmud.com );
/***
# "soleil@medievia.com", /* integrity */
# "nazgul99@artlover.com", /* smoking pot/doing drugs in discussion */
# "Shadowdemonz@aol.com",
# "rendo@persona.ca", /* http://dbsdevelop.com/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=2&thread_id=278&pid=1880#post_1$
# "conner_destron@yahoo.com", /* Conner: flamed through email locke_nimud - sent to better business bureau -$
# "samson@afkmud.com", /* http://www.mudconnect.com/discuss2/discuss.cgi?mode=MSG&area=admin&message=4381#4$
# "jlsysinc@hotmail.com", /* http://www.mudconnect.com/discuss2/discuss.cgi?mode=MSG&area=admin&message=4381$
# "Zeno-McDohl@nycap.rr.com", /* http://www.mudconnect.com/discuss2/discuss.cgi?mode=MSG&area=admin&message=$
# "jwalker7281@yahoo.com", /* Xorith: stated will never contribute to site on our forums */
# "davionkalhen@gmail.com", /* Davion: stated will never contribute to site on our forums */
# "mudaddict4life@gmail.com",
# "kiasynkelle@gmail.com", /* Kiasyn (mudbytesdotnet) posted 100+forum spam for mudbytesrules */
# "eclipsing.souls@gmail.com", /*Vyers: mudbytes sig taunting */
# "kyndigsucks@gmail.com", /* tyche2 */
# "creator@justrage.com" /* http://www.justrage.com/article.php/mudrage_dot_com */ );
***/

if ( is_logged_in() && in_array( $_SESSION["user"]["user_email"], $ba_list) )



now the code that was running before site shutdown ( the bans were never my idea you buncha jerk offs ):


"REFER" => $refer,
"GAMEPULLDOWN" => game_pulldown(),
"SITEURL" => $base_url ));

$t->parse("out","mainheader",true);
$t->parse("out","mainpage",true);
$t->parse("out","footer",true);
$t->p("out");
include_once("/home/kyndig/SESSIONS/Footer.inc");
soft_exit();
}
else
{
return true;
}
}

/* show our last 10 page visits */
function recent_pages() {

$data = "


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No ban system et all. This is the kinda BS self-aggrandising talk from C/C++ text game hobyists that don't get enough attention, which ruin it for those that just want to enjoy what they are doing without some schmuck coming in and ruining it. After 10 years, enough is enough. NO, it won't be be back up but thanks for the offer =)

You're right, I'm giving all you jerks the big-ole finger because I don't have to appear to host you guys anymore.


MAN THAT FELT GOOD!!

#
"mudaddict4life@gmail.com",

Hey, that's me! :P

"kyndigsucks@gmail.com",
/* tyche2 */

That's not Tyche, that was me too.

I wasn't telling you to *CENSORED* off, but now I'm tell you to go fcuck off =) More self-importance that destroyed it for the hobbyists:

Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:07:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kyndig <kyndig@mudrage.com>
To: Brandon Bridges <fizban@tbamud.com>
Subject: Re: MudRage

Heya Brandong. Don't be shocked, put yourself in my shoes bud.

I spent _thousands_ of hours teaching myself programming and designing/developmeing a community portal that happened to
be focused on something my ex-wife enjoyed. After a nice little persecution thing a few years back, I decided to step
back. When I _finally_ started working on it again, the first few replies to my "Hey! I'm excited about working on this
again!" - are along the lines of what you, crat, and others posted..well. All I can say is heh...go fly a kite =) Not
interested.



On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Brandon Bridges wrote:

> I think that your last post more or less answered what I was going to ask,
> but I figure I'd still rather be told no directly than just assume the
> answer was a no. Several people I know read your post and thought it was a
> shame that the site was closing after 7 years and asked me if you had any
> plans to pass the site off and if anyone had stepped up to do so. I told
> them I didn't believe so but that I'd at least ask you if it was something
> you would be willing to do. I know you obviously care about the mudding
> community or you'd have closed years ago, or never even opened. Because of
> this I'm shocked that from your post it looks like you aren't willing to
> pass off the site in any shape or form to someone else as it would
> undoubtedly aid the community as a whole with no harm (at least that I can
> think of) to you.
>
> --
> ---Fizban
> The Builder Academy tbamud.com:9091
> 4 Dimensions 4dimensions.org:6000
>

All I can say is heh...go
fly a kite =)

I consider that to be a polite "go *CENSORED* yourself".



(Comment added by Drizzt1216 on Tue Sep 9 23:58:15 2008)

Don't worry, I didn't fault you for closing the site. I do
fault you for doing it an hour later just to be petty. I
also fault you for refusing to pass it along. The concept
is totally against the whole spirit of muds. The DIKU Team
spent just as much time developing their codebase as you
did on your site, when they quit they didn't throw away
their work, they released it. What you did is like a child
that throws a tantrum. Moving away from muds I can respect,
the manner in which you did it I can't.

Shocked you thought Kyndigsucks was Tyche considering:

"(he promised to change anyone's username who made one
called KyndigSucks to FartNuts....I made KyndigSucks, but
no rename...just a ban....go figure)" posted by me in this
thread: http://www.mudconnect.com/discuss/discuss.cgi?
mode=MSG2&area=admin&page=10&message=4638#4641

But I'm actually flattered getting mistaken for Tyche is
definitely a step up in my book.

Kyndig wrote:
"ROFLMAO!!

I LOVE YOU Cratylus! Liar liar pants on fire. wow nice job. Good luck with YOUR community. ;)

For the masses, my 3 yr old code that had bans:"

I'm not really that concerned with what you call
a "ban" or not. When I tried to respond in that
thread I got this over and over and could not
log in anymore.

But someone else was able to post with no problems.

I'm happy to accept that maybe you screwed
something up on the site accidentally such that
I could not post but other people could. But
given your history with ban/filter/firewall
games, I'm not sure I'm inclined toward that
option as my first guess.

I think that your mirth is a bit out of place
here, frankly. You've just done a disservice
to a lot of people and this would be a good
opportunity to explain your actions. Instead
you're taking the opportunity to behave in
a childish manner. It's not too late. Please
help us understand why yanking the site was
better than turning it over to someon else.

-Crat
http://lpmuds.net

Crat, it'd actually been a known bug since the site moved
that if you clicked on he Remember Me button you couldn't
log on.

Glad your flattered LOL. Sorry it was 3 years late in coming to ya heh

Gawd this is too much. LOL. Night folks. Will check this thread in the morning just to spit out my coffee at the computer and die laughing or get all fired up at some other lie or taunt. Hell, we havn't even heard from Tyche yet ;) Betchya it'll be interestin. In the end, all those Megs of code you downloaded at last minute...hell, you can HAVE it. Dang ..I'm not interested in this stuff anymore, but you guys sure are a riot with your chest beating and self-important posturing. I LOVE Craty's cut/paste reply style..it's so unique. Kinda a "I use a notepad program to type/spellcheck my replies" kinda thing - very groovy.

So yeah, the repository is yours. I see no better fitting place for it than at mudbytes LOL I won't pay for your bandwidth anymore though. so send me an email where I can send the repository to. It's 3.5G in size compressed .tgz

I think that your mirth is a bit out of place
here, frankly. You've just done a disservice
to a lot of people and this would be a good
opportunity to explain your actions. Instead
you're taking the opportunity to behave in
a childish manner. It's not too late. Please
help us understand why yanking the site was
better than turning it over to someon else.

Oh! Sorry, isn't this how folks always leave the text gaming community? In some loud obscene fashion that gets you all riled up and hating them for doing a disservice to YOU? Hmm. I'm pretty sure in my 13 years mudding, that has been my experience. I betchya there's a thesis in that somewhere...

On a serious note though. Yes, you probably hadn't removed cookies. Sorry, but I didn't have time to search for mudmagic.com cookies on browsers and replace them with mudrage.com ones ( in thinkin 'bout it, it would have required knowing username/pwd/email for the cookie and changing that data on initial page load - interesting challenge..BUT, we'll never know )

Seriously men. You need to stop ruining it for the humble folks that arn't wordy, and witty. That's all I gotta say 'bout that. =) Enjoy your replies and taunts at my expense, "kyndig" has nothing left ta lose in this community ;)



(Comment added by kyndig on Wed Sep 10 0:22:54 2008)

erumm..re-reading that. Before you think "kyndig" means that I have an alias. I don't. I never did, never will with text gaming. Kyndig is dead, Long Live Kyndig! Huzzah!

Drizzt wrote:
"Crat, it'd actually been a known bug since the site moved
that if you clicked on he Remember Me button you couldn't
log on."

I tried a few different ways. And remember, I posted
after the cutover to remark that it had happened,
so I'm pretty sure it's due to something more
recent than the cutover.


Kyndig wrote:
"I LOVE Craty's cut/paste reply style..it's so unique. Kinda a "I use a notepad program to type/spellcheck my replies" kinda thing - very groovy."

Uh...thanks!

-Crat
http://lpmuds.net

(Comment added by cratylus on Wed Sep 10 0:23:22 2008)

"On a serious note though. Yes, you probably hadn't removed cookies. Sorry, but I didn't have time to search for mudmagic.com cookies on browsers and replace them with mudrage.com ones ( in thinkin 'bout it, it would have required knowing username/pwd/email for the cookie and changing that data on initial page load - interesting challenge..BUT, we'll never know )"

Sorry. I posted on mudrage after the cutover.
Cookies aren't the reason I couldn't log in.

Seriously men. You need to stop ruining it for the humble folks that arn't wordy, and witty. That's all I gotta say 'bout that. =) Enjoy your replies and taunts at my expense, "kyndig" has nothing left ta lose in this community ;)

I happen to agree with you, we all need to stop killing people off especially those new to the scene. There has been an air of change lately that you may not have noticed and some of us are taking stock of our own actions and trying to interact in a more harmonious fashion and to end many of the old rivalries.

Anyways, enjoy whatever your doing. Kyndig has left the building.

Sorry. I posted on mudrage after the cutover.
Cookies aren't the reason I couldn't log in.

Honestly, Crat, this time you are just paranoid.
This log-in bug wasn't specifically aimed at you, quite a few of us had similar problems the days after the server switch. I got the exact same log-in screen myself a number of times, got frustrated about it, e-mailed the site admin, got a helpful reply in return, and the next day I could log in normally. The day after the same thing happened again, then it was resolved again. It was a common problem.

Anyhow, let me take this opportunity to say that I regret the closing down of a very good Mud-related site. It's a loss to the Mud community, and another nail in the coffin of Text Muds.

And you guys shouldn't pee on the corpse.

So yeah, the repository is yours. I see no better fitting place for it than at mudbytes LOL I won't pay for your bandwidth anymore though. so send me an email where I can send the repository to. It's 3.5G in size compressed .tgz

You can send it to kayle AT smaugmuds DOT org, i am not Kayle, but he is someone who can receive a 3.5gig file via email so that it can be made available to those who are looking for code.

Molly wrote:
"Honestly, Crat, this time you are just paranoid."

Mkay. Just looked that way to me, given what I saw and
his past behavior.

Sorry, Kyndig, I was wrong about you banning me in
the last 15 minutes of your adminship.

-Crat
http://lpmuds.net

It's not just Crat that was paranoid.

Apparently Kyndig thought that the "standard IMCers" were plotting against him. By all means, myself, Samson and Crat use IMC (Drizzt does not) but we don't plot against you. Kayle said I was the only "standard IMCer" and I've never seen anyone plotting something against someone else or another MUD/site.

(Comment added by Zeno_McDoh on Wed Sep 10 8:43:08 2008)

Oh and the MudBytes link Kyndig posted has a record of the final thread (which includes what I'm talking about).

Seriously men. You need to
stop ruining it for the humble folks that arn't wordy, and
witty. That's all I gotta say 'bout that. =) Enjoy your
replies and taunts at my expense, "kyndig" has nothing left
ta lose in this community ;)

Yeah, the quiet ones like me. *snorts and points at
Cratylus's screenshot.*

Well, to put some closure to this rather sad business, it seems that Kyndig just put the repository up for download on the website.

Which of course was the right and proper things to do. :-)

(Comment added by Molly on Wed Sep 10 12:36:15 2008)

Thanks, Kyndig!

I'm saddened to see the end of Mudmagic/MudRage, but I can definitely understand why it is no longer an interest for you, Kyndig. I would like to take the time to wish you well in your future endeavors. You've served the MUD community for long enough that we can be at least respectful of your choices and your privacy.

Despite Samson and Kyndig's problems, even Samson is calling for people on Mudbytes to respect Kyndig's decision and privacy as he steps away and tries to get his business in order.

I have my own opinions of all of this mess, but I'm choosing to keep them to myself.