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TMC Player Reviews: Sindome


Review Submitted By: NotKenneth
Author Status: Player
Started on Sindome: 9/11/2011
Submission Date: Sep 10, 2017
TMC Listing: Sindome

The following review is the opinion of the review's author [NotKenneth] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff.

OK. Nobody wants to read reviews full of subjectivity: straight to
the meat. This is about Cerberus, a top-tier administrator on Sindome.
You will be occupying the same space as him, should you choose to
play.

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[OOC-Chat] Staff Cerberus: Just like to make another appeal to the
community. If you're not aware, we've received some negative reviews
on TMC from banned players and in the absence of positive reviews ,
they stand out a lot. So if you've had a positive experience with SD
and the Staff, please feel free to post a review on TMC so we can
avoid losing potential new immigrants to the exaggerated claims of a
few toxic people.
http://www.mudconnect.com/cgi-bin/prev/submit.cgi?mud=Sindome

[OOC-Chat] Staff Cerberus: We appreciate any time people take to
write the reviews. It's unfortunate that the voting doesn't speak
for itself, but we need to protect ourselves and our new players from
the toxicity of banned players.

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What this man is doing is called 'poisoning the well.' You insult
someone before they get a chance to make a statement in order to
persuade people's opinions of them negatively. It works wonders.
Unfortunately for him, it's not an argument, thus has no rational,
keyword rational, persuasive merit. It would be like if I referred to
him as Cranky Cerb throughout the rest of this review in Trump style
of bestowing a funny nickname onto your opponent. But it shouldn't
affect your judgement. But it does.

By attaching negative adjectives to the writers of these reviews
('banned, toxic'), Cranky Cerb is able to gain the persuasive upper
hand on people who are less likely know about these kind of tricks.
And you don't want to be tricked, do you?

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(From):
http://www.sindome.org/bgbb/open-discussion/anything-really/cerberus-and-you-707/

''I will make an attempt to return to being polite and
understanding, but I will do so with a zero tolerance rule.

If I hear you out, and respond, and you decide that you didn't like
my response and resume arguing your point.

You will have earned a time out in the void for 30 minutes as per our
current rules.

Respect is a two way street and I will respect you if you can respect
the fact that I am putting an effort into being nice and polite and
understanding to your concerns.''

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Respect is a two way street, except when Cranky Cerb doesn't like
your response. There cannot be an 'understanding' conversation when
you have threats hovering over your head like this. You just can't.
You will stifle yourself in hopes of avoiding any kind of conflict and
may even convince yourself that you indeed like this person and their
opinions to better cope with the situation. It is similar to, but not
exactly, Stockholm syndrome.

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(From):
http://www.sindome.org/bgbb/open-discussion/anything-really/cerberus-and-you-707/

Xenode: So GMs have not defended an action, ever, that wasn't cool
by player or GM standards? Cerberus: I don't understand the question.

Xenode: You're phrasing things in an 'us vs. them' style, as if
GMs are saints, and players are the only ones who ever do anything
wrong. This is the same kind of mentality that has people angry at the
police in many parts of the US. Yes most GMs are good and well
intentioned, like most police are, but when you start talking like the
players are the only ones causing any trouble or doing anything wrong,
you're forcing that kind of reaction. Cerberus: I am not sure how to
answer the question Xenode when you take the position that admin are
abusive like police but I'll try.

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This is called strawmanning. You twist your opponent's words into
something easier to beat and kill it before anyone notices what you
did. The discerning reader will note Xenode never said that Sindome
admins are abusive like police. It makes it much easier for Cranky
Cerb to completely dodge around concerns such as these by painting
them a different colour.

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Cerberus OOCly shouts, 'It is NOT appropriate to clear your
description in a shroud. What the heck.'

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There's also the problem of whimsical judgement. He has a tendency
to influence players with the use of the global Out Of Character
announcement system, making up laws on the fly which only affect the
players that are around at the time to notice them. You get a set of
players abiding by this set of laws, that set of laws, eventually
there's secret mystery laws that nobody knows about. You can see
where this goes. If something isn't written down explicitly, it's
not a real standard.

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Cerberus OOCly shouts, 'Ignore that description and HOW THE fart DO
YOU COME TO THAT CONCLUSION' Cerberus OOCly shouts, 'I SAID IGNORE
IT'

...Moments later...
Cerberus OOCly shouts, 'Johnny is saying that if you forget to
remove specific details out of your description when you put on your
shroud then its your fault and people get to be meta against you. So
good luck. '

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Then you have kneejerk reactionery bipolarism like this. Cranky Cerb
rapidly takes one emotional stance then quickly takes the more
favorable stance of listening to his superior.

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[OOC-Chat] Staff Cerberus: I get a list of everyone's bank accounts
at the push of a button. [OOC-Chat] Staff Cerberus: Last time the mix
got too rich, I had to kill people daily until they spent their bank
accounts on resupplying.

Cerberus OOCly shouts, 'STOP annoying ME OFF.'
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And then there's that.
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Did my usage of Cranky Cerb alter your perception or judgement in any
way? It shouldn't.

Overall Sindome is a unique roleplaying experience that while it has
a clunky interface at times can provide the potential for fun if you
find the right chums and avoid the bad hombres. You just have to be
know who's in the kennel.

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Comment Submitted By: KennyFan
Author Status: Player
Started on Sindome: 2012?
Submission Date: Oct 8, 2017

(The following review comment is the opinion of the comment's author [KennyFan] and in no way represents the opinions of this website or its staff).

Great review, NotKenneth! You didn't even pick the best examples of
the behavior you described -- all in all, pretty lenient, I'd say.
The bad apples aside, Sindome is a great game. Would love to play
again someday. Y'know, when Cranky Cerb finally gets bored of the
power trip and moves on. Until then, I can't really justify
subjecting myself to regular abuse during my limited free time. Best
of luck to ya.