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Should "MUDs" be referred to something else to gain more attention and interest for new players?

"Multi-User Dungeons" (People know what Multi-User means as well as Dungeons in general.)
"Text Based Online Games"
simply "MMORPGs" because everyone knows what they are. No reason to include nongraphical in the description :p
"Living Books" or "Living Pages"
or the tried and true "MUDs", but that may have confusing or dirty connotations to the average person

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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2017, 12:48 PM »
I agree, this would be a good idea, if Icculus would like to do something about it.

I didn't even know Mukluk and Blowtorch existed, until I recently went looking for a way to connect to the mud from my surfpad, when away from home. But they do exist, and they work, even though mudding from a cellphone or a surfpad really isn't a mindblowing experience. I just use it to read notes and possibly chat a bit myself.
Still, as a quick introduction, just to check out what a text mud is, it could still be a help. And text muds do need fresh blood badly.

So Icculus, here is a formal request;
Could we please have a download link for Mukluk and Blowtorch somewhere in close connection to the PLAY NOW page?

I know the holidays just past, but figured I would bump this and bring it to your attention again since you are a senior memeber and also thought it a good idea.  ^_^  But nothing has been posted yet regarding Blowtorch or any other cell phone MUD client app.  Not sure if someone is working on an actual flash work around or just has not got around to posting a few links on that Play Now page.  ^_^

There's no reason to suspect any work is being done for a new client here or that any links will be added, so don't hold your breath :p
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2017, 11:31 PM »
Did this poll just pop up in this thread? I never noticed it before. Or is it a general poll popping up on TMC?
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2017, 11:03 AM »
I think MUDPlayer added the poll at some point during the discussion of the thread.
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2017, 11:17 AM »
I think MUDPlayer added the poll at some point during the discussion of the thread.
Thanks HK, I was going to comment on it here, but I think I will start a new thread on a similar topic.
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2017, 1:59 PM »
I think MUDPlayer added the poll at some point during the discussion of the thread.
Thanks HK, I was going to comment on it here, but I think I will start a new thread on a similar topic.

My favorite part is the clear bias in the poll options attempting to lead the voter toward a particular response :p
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2017, 2:13 PM »
I think MUDPlayer added the poll at some point during the discussion of the thread.
Thanks HK, I was going to comment on it here, but I think I will start a new thread on a similar topic.

My favorite part is the clear bias in the poll options attempting to lead the voter toward a particular response :p
Well on explanation is off. For example MMORPG means MASSIVELY which to me denotes  1000's of players. MMORPG makes no sense in terms of MUDs.

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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2017, 3:41 PM »
Closest thing I've seen to an alternate name for MUDs I thought worked was "TORG"... someone around here on TMC uses that term to describe their game.  I suppose "TMORPG" could also work and would be a closer analog to "MMORPG".

Still though, nothing wrong with "MUD".
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2017, 11:47 PM »
I made the poll the way I did because the discussion had already started and I have found in previous forums from times past that some people may vote before even bothering reading the content so I placed the key points in the poll itself.  Hence why "MUDs" or even "Text Based Online Games" was even given a spot in the poll to begin with.

Hopefully no one is too easily persuaded by mear words and vote with their heart. ^_^

However, what does the "T" in"TORG" or "TMORPG" stand for?

Finally, I would not actually expect the flash client to be fixed, so quickly if at all, but I would like to think someone could take a moment and post a link or two of phone MUD clients.  Unless the page it self wont allow for a simple copy and past of links.  But we are talking of the great potential of many new players being able to discover and play MUDs while still on their phones.  I do not think that is a selfish request on mine or anyone else's part who agreed with it.
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2017, 10:56 AM »
Icculus is the only one with any sort of access to make any modifications on the site or forum.

Community Managers have the ability to "moderate" (modify, move, lock, delete, etc. threads and/or users), but otherwise, no one participating in the threads can do anything site-wise.  Unfortunately, it is up to Icculus to take notice and decide such an idea is a good one.

You may try emailing him your request, as that's more likely to get a response than posting here.  However, the squeaky wheel gets the grease, so I surely wouldn't discourage you from keeping this thread active, because he may run across it.

TORG - Text Only Roleplaying Game, or Text Online Roleplaying Game
TMORPG - Text Multiplayer Online RolePlaying Game
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2017, 10:15 PM »
Closest thing I've seen to an alternate name for MUDs I thought worked was "TORG"... someone around here on TMC uses that term to describe their game.  I suppose "TMORPG" could also work and would be a closer analog to "MMORPG".

Still though, nothing wrong with "MUD".
We coined that name for Ateraan many years ago. TORG means, Text Only Roleplaying Game as opposed to GORG. Graphic Online Roleplaying Game. We've uses this on our site for years to differentiate between Text games and Graphic Games.

We continue to use this in our advertising campaigns and on our website that really helps players who have never played a "MUD" before. We still use the term MUD but not with new players to Text Games.

Example of our TORG definition on our website is here: http://www.ateraan.com/tutorial/torg.html

The problem I've always had with MUD is that most adventure games (graphic or non) could be a MUD, however, not all Adventure games are Multi User Dungeons. There are no dungeons in some space games, there are no dungeons in many MUDs (dungeon as defined by D&D enthusiasts as that cave or adventure area you create as a Dungeon Master).
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2017, 10:51 AM »
Yeah there we go.  I knew someone active was using that term... I just couldn't remember who.

Thanks :)
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2017, 8:46 PM »
Yeah there we go.  I knew someone active was using that term... I just couldn't remember who.

Thanks :)
I am hurt! I can't believe you couldn't remember who.  :'(
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2017, 11:16 PM »
You may try emailing him your request, as that's more likely to get a response than posting here.  However, the squeaky wheel gets the grease, so I surely wouldn't discourage you from keeping this thread active, because he may run across it.

I was going to try and PM him, but I can not find him as a member, only locate everyone talking about him, asking questions towards him or thanking him, but no replies by him, that I am aware of anyway.  Nor did I see an email on the forum for him.  Perhaps I will just wait and see if he ever reads this.  ^_^
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Re: Potential new players unable to use TMC MUD client on phones...
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2017, 11:38 AM »
Don't hold your breath on a quick response though.  ;)
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