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I gotta side with the others, though with the caveat "There doesn't seem to be any other actual mods active 99% of the time".

Possibly because they got tired of being babysitters around here.

I think Hades should probably step in, in extreme cases, and lock or split threads, or put "Cool off ban with further action to be decided" or something if it gets really out of hand.

The fact that there's still a shilling comment made in a promotion thread is kind of bull****, but, y'know, whatever.
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Might not be active now, but it certainly was recently-ish based on updated: August 15, 2017
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Administrative Ethics / Re: Concerns over the Monetization of MUDs
« Last post by Tijer on Today at 2:05 PM »
This reminds me of a GodWars based mud that was running in 2006 called Rekmud, which sold objects in game, godwars is based upon merc, which doesnt allow any form of monetary gain from it, but this person continued to do this until it was brought out into the open.  Icculus removed the MUD from TMC and Kyndig or Wolfpaw (i forget which it was now) removed the account from their servers.

Personally i would never play any pay to play or pay for perks mud, they should all be free to use! I dont even think WoW and the like should really charge to play, as you already have to shell out for the actual game, which should be inclusive of "subscription" to the game.

MUDs were said to be dying in 1996 when i first started to play, but they are still around, and people are still saying they're still dying...

What did used to annoy me was when TMC had Iron Realms adverts all over the site pretty much saying that hobbyist muds weren't as good as theirs!!

How do you remember this sh**?

I mean, after you mention it, I vaguely remember the threads about the MUD, but it wasn't a big enough blip on the TMC posting history that I would have recalled it if the MUD wasn't referenced by name.

http://www.mudconnect.com/mud-bin/adv_search.cgi?Mode=MUD&mud=Rekmud

Heh, that MUD's still listed actually, even updated their listing a few months ago. No clue if they're still violating the license though.

Further digging confirms your MudMagic AND Wolfpaw recollection were pretty on point too. He got kicked off Wolfpaw and then moved to MudMagic.

Further investigation and it appears the mud isnt ran by the original owner "Rekwan" i also think its no longer active...
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id be in the same position as Drizzt, if it was someone i knew id leave it for someone else to deal with if they decided that the post was breaking rules.  I will however state that alot of the stuff Epilogy has posted about pay for perks mud i agree with, and the whole deletion of pfiles of people who paid for stuff, and only reimbursing those who paid $1000+ is bang out of order!!

But while Epilogy is at it, hes also generating promotion for New Worlds Ateeran...
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Administrative Ethics / Re: Concerns over the Monetization of MUDs
« Last post by Tijer on Today at 1:58 PM »
he saw the error of his ways and stopped giving "rigged" items for payment, his mud never really took off after that though...
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This reminds me of a GodWars based mud that was running in 2006 called Rekmud, which sold objects in game, godwars is based upon merc, which doesnt allow any form of monetary gain from it, but this person continued to do this until it was brought out into the open.  Icculus removed the MUD from TMC and Kyndig or Wolfpaw (i forget which it was now) removed the account from their servers.

Personally i would never play any pay to play or pay for perks mud, they should all be free to use! I dont even think WoW and the like should really charge to play, as you already have to shell out for the actual game, which should be inclusive of "subscription" to the game.

MUDs were said to be dying in 1996 when i first started to play, but they are still around, and people are still saying they're still dying...

What did used to annoy me was when TMC had Iron Realms adverts all over the site pretty much saying that hobbyist muds weren't as good as theirs!!

How do you remember this sh**?

I mean, after you mention it, I vaguely remember the threads about the MUD, but it wasn't a big enough blip on the TMC posting history that I would have recalled it if the MUD wasn't referenced by name.

http://www.mudconnect.com/mud-bin/adv_search.cgi?Mode=MUD&mud=Rekmud

Heh, that MUD's still listed actually, even updated their listing a few months ago. No clue if they're still violating the license though.

Further digging confirms your MudMagic AND Wolfpaw recollection were pretty on point too. He got kicked off Wolfpaw and then moved to MudMagic.
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Surprise surprise, Hades is allowing a post from his best buddy that does nothing but bash a thriving mud.

There's multiple mods. They're actually all capable of levying bans.

If I was in Hades position I'd likely leave Epilogy's posts to another mod as well.

Hypothetically, Hades_Kane bans Epilogy for a week. You decide that was a sh** ban, that it should have been for 2 weeks or a month, or permanent and cause a stink, claim Hades just banned Epilogy for a short duration as a means of protecting him from getting a lengthier ban from someone else. etc.

It's a bad idea. It's not worth the drama, it's best left to the other mods.

I don't think this is news to you though, you just want to play the fool to incite people against Hades and color his character as being that of a dishonest and biased mod.
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<Last edit:  January 20, 2018 by Kuros:  Sorry guys, I don't know how he keeps getting through.>

You've grown soft, old man.

Cmon, can we get a HARRRR, or something, guys?
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Administrative Ethics / Re: Concerns over the Monetization of MUDs
« Last post by Epilogy on Today at 1:10 PM »
Not sure about MUDs, but I've known plenty of people to spend upwards of $50,000 on MMO's. Most of that was illegal RMT'ing though as opposed to buying things from the developers.
It's a good point, I once was offered $1000 to level a character. This would have taken about 100 hours, so it comes out at $10 an hour. To someone making $30 an hour it's easier to work some overtime than to do some dull mindless grinding.

I don't think a pay for perks system is inherently unethical. It's a way for a developer to monetize an aspect of the game that would otherwise create a black market.

It was very frustrating to see pay for perks muds pour their entire advertising budget into the mud community at one point, cannibalizing it, rather than trying to go outside of the community to draw in new players.

The mud community will continue to die unless one of the commercial MUDs find a cost effective way to attract players new to the genre.

I think the commercial games contribute certain negative factors. First, some use bait-and-switch. They may be completely new, and clicked on an ad. Wouldn't know there's many, many other games out there which are completely free, which brings me to the next point. The atmosphere fostered in commercial games is that a player who doesn't purchase in-game things is a scrub, and in some cases it's engineered to be that way intentionally in terms of gameplay.

So, I think we might be getting a lot of new people with an extremely high turn over rate due to the most visible, loudest muds being their front door into MU*s turning out to be a "free to play" game with pay to win. Most of the people that would be in our general demographic -I think- would be the people most likely to hear "free to play" and automatically interpret it with the prejudice of it being a pay to win game.

(Some?) People these days can't seem to grasp the concept that a hobby is not a job. The world doesn't spin based on your Etsy account, or your youtube channel. They think if something is free, there's a hidden problem. In this instance, they'd be right. Failure to mention that a game operates heavily on a pay to win model until you've got their attention is not super awesome.
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Surprise surprise, Hades is allowing a post from his best buddy that does nothing but bash a thriving mud.  Rule breaking?  Is jealousy the motive?  The incentive for staying logged in is ingenious and more muds should adopt it.  I remember back in the day when such posts would have been insta-banned by Kuros, he was kind of a no nonsense guy.  He could single handedly wipe out any constructive discussion with a swipe of a keystroke.  In fact, in a bid to force everyone to think like himself, he could d

<This user has been banned by Kuros, again.>

<Last edit:  January 20, 2018 by Kuros:  Sorry guys, I don't know how he keeps getting through.>
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